Who really creates the hits tracks?
Ipse dixit (Mad Skillz, a ghostwriter) :
“I’m a ghost-writer, I’m the cat you don’t see / I write hits for rappers you like and charge ’em a fee”
Ipse dixit (Martin Garrix) : " .... Then I made a ghost production for somebody else — I can’t tell you which track I made — but this track got signed to Spinnin’ Records and became really big. They found out that I made it, and so they invited me to their office and I played them my other stuff — and we signed. "(from interview on Djmag)
Ipse dixit (Maceo Plex) : "......... “Some people just aren’t very good at putting together sounds and making things sound right – but have really amazing ideas and work really hard on the music they do with the engineer,” says Maceo Plex. “But there are other people that just have the money to buy the tracks, and that’s kind of a virus in the industry right now, that we’ve got to get rid of. If you think that a lot of these big commercial people make their own music, you’re living on another fucking planet! I always thought that maybe in the underground this wasn’t respe "(from interview by Ben Gomori , Mixmag)
Ipse dixit (PGGuy,
Tranceaddict.com): "......... producers who choose to produce for other under the other's names can make some decent money from that. "
Ipse dixit (Trancesept,
Tranceaddict.com): "........ djs will be djs but REAL music producers know their shit"
Ghost in the Machine
............. What isn’t common knowledge, though, is that some of the biggest names in house and techno – and further afield in electronic music – have tracks entirely ghostwritten for them by other producers, with absolutely no input of their own whatsoever. I’d heard tales of some of the biggest names in trance having production teams behind them for years, but I naively thought that the underground house and tech scene was far too authentic, genuine, credible and brimming with passion and integrity for it to be prevalent there. How wrong I was. The list I’ve heard of the guilty parties – cited by both ghostwriters and industry friends and colleagues of ghostwriters – is pretty shocking. From label bosses from some of the biggest imprints in Germany and the UK to upcoming producers on the London underground scene making a name for themselves on respected labels, to people duping acclaimed imprints with ghosted remixes, the practice is rife. ....... (from Ghost in the Machine by Ben Gomori, Mixmag)
Ghost-Producing" Is EDM's Dirty Little Secret (by Jemayel Khawaja)
Ghost Producing: What the EDM Industry Doesn’t Want You to Know (by Irene Tes, Crossfadr )
Who Actually Produces Dance Music/Who Claims To Produce But Doesn't (tranceaddict.com)
An Open Letter to Ghost Producers (by Nappy, Doanddroidsdnca.com)
".... People are applauding a DJ that landed on every major festival in the world off of the success of a single that he didn’t create."
Hardwell Says He Had A Ghost Production In Beatport’s Top 10 (by ITM HQ , inthemix.com)
"I’m a good DJ but I can’t produce my own songs, I got help,’ I think that’s fair. Because honestly, you can hear it, because every single track sounds totally different. Everybody in the scene knows who works with ghost-producers.” “The funny thing is,” he said, “nobody knows I have a current Beatport Top Ten hit with a track not under my name, a track that I ghost-produced, and nobody’s noticing it. But if people listen closely to the top ten, for sure they’re gonna hear which track it is.”
(3rd december 2013): Beatport’s CE O(Matthew Adell) on fake-DJing:
“I actually don’t care what happens before the speaker. As a fan I only care what comes out of the speaker.” (by Jim Poe, inthemix.com)
Ghostwriting – to cheat, or not to cheat? (from imusiciandigital.com
The Secret World Of EDM DJs Exposed By Reddit ( elitedaily.com)
“Lets get to the dirt. Who has ghost producers and who actually makes their music?
Surprisingly, almost all of them. For sure Tiesto, Shogun, Hardwell, Avicii, Markus Schulz, Armin van Buuren, Guetta, Andy C, BT – pretty much most of the big guys do.
Tiesto hires different people based on the sound he’s going for.
Shogun actually grew up with money so most of the productions aren’t his. I know FOR A FACT that Myon & Shane 54 ghost produced one of his big tracks. They wouldn’t tell me who but I’m guessing it was Skyfire.
Hardwell, Avicii – All have different people as well.
Markus Schulz – He gets a lot of underground/not very well known producers to do his stuff. “Love Rain Down On Me” was actually ghost produced in two days. The producer of it wanted it to sound as commercial as possible while still sticking to a certain style.
Armin – He gets different already big guys to master/ghost produce for him. But unlike Tiesto, only 10% of his productions are ghost produced.
Guetta generally has Joachim Garraud do all his stuff.
Andy C usually has Wilkinson do his ghost productions.
BT generally gets new up and coming artists. I know awhile back he wanted to have Porter Robinson ghost produce a track for him. I guess Porter only finished half and skipped out (because he blew up and started touring). BT then went on a Twitter tirade.”
Generally the ghost producer receive as payment the 5% of publishing ........
5% of a few million dollars is better than 50% of nothing .
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